"No, no sense of the body at all. I don't care whether it remains or drops. It makes no difference to me. The sight is there while sleeping, awake, in all states — always."
"Do you see me always?"
"Always! Without a second's break."
"How long will you see me?"
"Forever."
"Are you happy?"
"Yes, perfectly. In unbounded bliss."
"How long would you enjoy this state of anand [bliss]?"
"As long as you [Baba] are — forever. If you are everywhere and always, I too am everywhere and always with you; for I always — all 24 hours — see you and nothing else."
"Can you see anything else?"
"What else is there to see but Shri [Baba]? Even in the smallest particle, there is nothing but Baba."
"If left alone, where would you go?"
"When I am to go, I will go anywhere. I am everywhere with Shri."
"Do you feel anything while walking here and there, or coming in or going out, from your room to here?"
"Nothing whatsoever. No feeling — all automatic."
Chhota Baba was then caressed by the Master and moved to his adjoining portion of the room.
Turning to the mandali, Baba remarked, "He has no feeling whatsoever of these movements from here [Baba's seat] to there in the next room. This is fana — spiritual annihilation. In short, he is not the body; he is not the mind. He sees the Soul of souls."
Baba elaborated:
There are two states of fana: one unconscious as in the case of Rajaram, to whom all is nothing but the divine sight. He sees nothing but me. He is unconscious of his body, the world and all, except that sight. This is the state of the seeing majzoob, seeing God everywhere (as opposed to the Realized majzoob who sees the Self everywhere).
Rajaram is in a different state than Abdulla [Chhota Baba]: When Rajaram sees, he is conscious of his body and the world. He does not see that sight simultaneously, for he has the mind. Mind is not gone in him. And though mostly absorbed in the noor [divine light] that it sees, the mind sometimes is brought down, while talking, seeing other things of the world, and at that time he does not see the Light. But he can immediately take the mind out of the world and see the Light at will.
The second state of fana is that of Abdulla, to whom the mind is completely destroyed, and the Sight is always visible in all; but with the difference that it, the Seer-soul, recognizes the object seen as such.