Muniraj of Jabalpur asked Baba when he would break his silence.
Baba answered, "I am also eager to break my silence, and then I shall be free, and the world shall also be free of oppression. My observing silence for so many years is not for nothing. When I break my silence, the impact will be universal.
"No one knows how I am suffering. My suffering is not only physical but also mental and spiritual. There is a great difference between your mental and spiritual suffering and mine. My mental suffering is very intense and it is because of the pseudo-saints that abound in the world today. My spiritual suffering is because I know I am free in myself, but bound in you."
Looking at the packed room, Baba remarked, "I had called only about 20 persons this afternoon, but there are about 150 here!"
Baba remarked that there were several men present who had gotten their doctorates in philosophy.
Addressing one of them, Dr. Moorty, Baba asked, "What did you learn in philosophy?"
Moorty replied, "I learned to unlearn it!"
When the conversation drifted to the Western sahavas, to be held in December in Ahmednagar instead of Bombay, Baba stated that about 250 lovers from the West were expected to participate.
He remarked, "My lovers are inviting me to America for the sahavas, but I will not leave India now."
At 4:50 P.M. Baba left the side room and the group dispersed.
The next day, Tuesday, 4 May 1965, at 7:20 A.M. Baba entered the side room.
He asked Harry Kenmore, "Have you any idea of how much I suffer and yet seem as if I am happy?"
Kenmore replied, "Why don't you blow the whole thing off?"
Eruch interjected, "That would mean the end of the whole game!"
Baba did not comment.
A few persons had been called for darshan, some of whom were from Hyderabad. Baba told them:
I used to visit Hyderabad quite frequently, but moved about incognito for my mast work. I used to travel in cars, tongas and ox carts. We had to go sometimes on camelback. Often I slept on railway platforms. Once we had rested in a shady spot near a P.W.D. [Public Works Department] storehouse in Ahmedabad. The executive engineer happened to come on a round that day and he objected to our camping there. He fired the watchman for allowing us on the property. I then asked Eruch to go and explain to him who we were, and it was only then that the watchman was reinstated.