One of the Andhra lovers sang in Telugu. Their spokesman invited Baba to come back to Andhra.
Baba replied, "I know, I love the Andhra lovers very much, but I cannot promise a visit. However, if I go anywhere, I will go to Andhra."
The audio tape received from Louis Agostini in New York on which he gave several talks interspersed by Indian music was played again. When it was finished, Baba stated:
In God Speaks , I have explained about the sun representing the vidnyan bhumika . The region near it is the mana- or mental-bhumika, and the region still further away from it is pran- or subtle-bhumika, while this gross world which is farthest away from it is anna or gross world. But I have not mentioned therein that the anna-bhumika [gross world] has two states; the first is ignorance and the second is intellectual conviction.
The sun sheds its rays over everything. On the mental plane the rays are very powerful. In the subtle world they are mild, and on the gross world they are milder. Some take advantage of the sun and bask in its sunshine on the gross plane, while others, out of ignorance, stay under a roof and do not take advantage of the sun. Basking in the sunshine on the gross plane is called ilm-ul-yakin ; that is, intellectual conviction.
The state of Qutubiyat, though on the gross plane, has its place in the sun itself, for it is One with the sun. My consciousness is of all planes [bhumikas] simultaneously.
Jigar says: "The other name of love is annihilation; so do not seek life in love. Do not seek life in the rays of the sun, but become the Sun Itself!"
Baba then mentioned his five Perfect Masters:
Two of them were Hindus, two Muslims, while Sai Baba was both Hindu and Muslim. At night he would rest on seven bolts of cloth supplied by his followers from time to time for making robes for him to wear. Before leaving the mosque and going to the ch avdi [night resting place], Sai Baba would wave his hand seven times in the air as if blessing someone.
If anyone called Babajan "Mai" [Mother], she would react very angrily and shout she was not a woman! She would constantly stroke her arms as if brushing off something. This gesture of hers had a great significance.
Baba then related this humorous incident: