Everyone had a hearty laugh. Baba continued:
In the state of nirvan [fana], initially there is the experience of infinite vacuum. This is followed instantaneously by the experience of infinite bliss or the fana-fillah state — the nirvikalp state. A Qutub enjoys infinite power, infinite knowledge and infinite bliss and utilizes all these; while the Avatar only utilizes infinite knowledge, and does not use his infinite power and bliss. If he did so, how could he suffer and be helpless for the sake of humanity?
The talk switched to the recent inauguration of Mehersthan in Kovvur:
"People from Andhra have love for me. Now, at Dehra Dun, my lovers have laid the foundation stone of a 'Baba Dham' [house of worship in his name], but by the time it gets completed, I might break my silence!"
After retiring for a few minutes, Baba returned and took his usual seat in the hall, which was filled to capacity. Many had to sit on the verandah. Baba instructed that those who embraced him that day must not do so every Sunday, should they happen to come again for his darshan. He then said:
I have the continuous experience that I am the Singer, the songs, the musical instruments and also the audience.
You cannot imagine what infinite bliss means. The greatest joy man feels is when he lives happily with his beloved. That joy is only the seventh shadow of the real infinite bliss. I am real , but my shadow [illusion] is not real. It has no value. Its value is absolutely nil! Similarly, worldly joy which is the seventh shadow of real bliss, has absolutely no value. When once one experiences that bliss, one would not want to leave it and come back to this worldly consciousness even as a Perfect Master!
Khorshed had told Baba about an excellent singer in Bombay named M. Y. Mohan. A telegram was sent to Kishore Mistry, asking if the singer would come to Guruprasad to sing before Baba. Instead of "M. Y. Mohan," Kishore read the name as "My Mohan," and the singer's immediate response was, "Your Mohan is most happy to come!"
M. Y. Mohan came on 7 April 1963 and, at 3:00 P.M., Baba asked him to sing a bhajan. After one bhajan, he began to sing ghazals. Mohan had a melodious voice, and because it reminded Baba of the great deceased singer K. L. Saigal, he was nicknamed Mohan-Saigal. Baba was pleased with his singing and, when the program was over, he gave him a handkerchief as a token of his appreciation. After this, Mohan-Saigal sang before Baba on several occasions and became a true lover.