If Pukar tells the doctor that he is having pain in the chest, the doctor may only get an idea of the pain from his knowledge of medicine, but he cannot experience the pain. When these physical things are difficult to express, how much more difficult it will be to understand spirituality, which is subtle.
After explaining this, Baba stated:
"Kaikobad, after leaving this body, will be released from the cycle of births. Therefore, he will not require another form. Now, suppose Kaikobad is not a member of my circle and Baidul is. Kaikobad has experiences, while Baidul does not. [Nevertheless], Baidul, being a member of my circle, enjoys the higher position."
Continuing, Baba explained:
"The men and women of my mandali will have union with God. They will get the experience of eternal bliss, eternal knowledge and eternal power, while Kaikobad shall only be released from the cycle of births; that is, if he were not a member of my mandali."
The phonograph was brought into the hall and a few qawaali records were played. Baba commented on some of the songs:
Those who are afraid of the difficulties on the Path are not brave; those afraid to be slaughtered by the sword of the Beloved's love will remain far from the Goal.
Those low-minded men who talk against the Master and doubt him will never attain the Goal. The Master is not under any obligation to the lover, and so he does not apparently care about the lover's difficulties and sufferings. In fact, he remains as if unaware of them.
The lover says to his Master: "I pine so much for union, but why do you not respond?"
The Master says: "Do you oblige me with your love?" In other words, the lover should not complain about his difficulties to his Master, nor expect anything from him.
The lover says to his Beloved: "Which night of my suffering should I relate to you? As in my life of love there is only one everlasting night of suffering!"
In the afternoon Baba played card games as usual. Afterwards, he went for a walk with Hoshang and Cowas on the Meherazad road and pointed out Ratanshah Gyara's cabin in the fields, where he used to sleep at night in the 1940s.