Malcolm replied, "We would have more solace if you gave us the Experience!" Baba did not answer.
A few more ghazal records were played. Baba interpreted the meanings:
O you who have arrived at the Goal and know the secret of God, see that you reveal the secret only to the select few.
Baba commented, "When Mansur said 'I am God,' the Muslims were infuriated and hanged him."
O Mansur, even if you are hanged for having said you are one with Beloved God, do not reveal the secret.
O Shams-e-Tabriz, because you raised the dead and the Muslims skinned you alive, do not reveal the secret.
O lovers of God, do not let what is in your hearts come to your lips.
Remember, one who really loves God, God annihilates him. God mixes him with the dust.
Baba remarked, "And this was true of the apostles of Christ and the past Saviors."
O Lover, beware, God tests you by being cruel, by giving you false hopes, even by cutting you to pieces.
Baba commented, "Hafiz says, The Master ties you fully dressed, hands and feet, unto a plank, throws you in mid-ocean, and says, 'If you love me, let not one drop of water touch your clothes.' Why does he do this? The answer is that which Peter the chief apostle was told: 'You will deny me.' Why? Jesus said it and had it done. Why? Jesus, in that way, took the whole burden of the world and made Peter share it.
"To love means to lose your whole self with all its paraphernalia. It means torture, pangs, longing, and if despite all this, one is firm in his love, he becomes one with the Beloved. What was the height of suffering to Peter? That he denied his beloved Master! This denial was to enable him to share the sufferings of Jesus.
The lover says that:
Now the effect of your love has so infinitely widened my vision that wherever I go, I see nothing but you. I know, Beloved, I shall not be able to bear your glory. Yet I am ready to die; show me your face.