Different types of bubbles exist in the ocean — some are small, some big, some black, some red, some white, some dirty — numerous sorts.
Referring to Kumar, Baba stated, "He is in the Ocean. He has his wife, children, relations. Every drop is different, but each one is a bubble."
Kishan Singh asked, "Why don't you just break these bubbles?"
Baba joked, "Yours is already broken!"
Touching on Sabir Saheb of Iran and his spiritual attainments, Baba stated:
Sabir was staying with his maternal uncle and had much wealth. Once, his mother asked him to prepare a vast amount of food and feed the poor. For twelve years he kept on feeding others, but during this time, he was living only on figs. He had become quite weak, and once his mother asked why he was not taking food cooked for others. He replied that he was told he should cook for and feed others, and so, whatever he was preparing, he was not eating himself.
Once, Sabir saw a flash of the divine light, and was so merged in it that he remained in that state of bliss for a year and a half. When he came to, he found himself sitting under a tree eating a fig. Such a state is called mukam-e-hairat [divine enchantment caught between the third and fourth planes]. He got that flash of bliss and became dazed. Can you understand his condition? It is infinite bliss, continuous bliss, eternal bliss, but not in ordinary human consciousness. It is infinite bliss, infinite knowledge, infinite power, but he cannot use them. Sabir had that Experience, and only a rare one knows what it is.
"I would not like to know," commented Pendu.
Baba replied, "Who says that this state is not good? Nilu, too, says he does not want God-realization. He wants medical work, good food and my company."
Continuing, Baba said:
Maulana Rumi was a great savant of his time. He could give good speeches and discourses. When he traveled from place to place, the books of his learned lore were packed and carried on camelback. Everywhere, he was accorded the highest honors. Shams-e-Tabriz, on the other hand, was quite naked. One day they encountered each other and Shams threw all Rumi's books in a well. Rumi was furious with him, but Shams explained that all his books, including the Koran , were like dry bones for a dog! "Until now," he said, "you have been chewing only the bones; it is time you tasted the brain!"