Similarly, touching Baidul's feet twice, Baba instructed him to go to Ishwar Singh and Mangat Ram and bow to each of them.
Elcha did as ordered, and afterward Anandamayi Ma expressed her desire to meet Meher Baba. Elcha informed Baba, who sent her this message:
Meher Baba was informed of your wish to see him. He says that there is no need for you to see him. If Baba is the Highest of the High, as people say, and is in everything and in everyone, then he is omniscient, and in you also. Even if that is not the case, then there would be no advantage in a meeting with him. Baba is bowing down to saints, walis, masts, sadhus and the poor equally, and he conveys his love to you. With his love, he sends his salutation to you.
Baba again bowed to Elcha, as proxy, and sent him back to Anandamayi Ma. After bowing to the woman saint, Elcha conveyed Baba's message. On hearing it, she declared repeatedly, " Namo Narayana ! [Obeisance to God Narayan!]"
After seeing the two other saints and bowing down to them, Baidul returned and informed Baba, who inquired, "What did Ishwar Singh say?"
"He asked me who Meher Baba was."
"How did you answer?"
"I told him he was a great saint."
This upset Baba, and he stated at length:
Do you take me for a saint? Is this how your heart speaks? Had you said Baba is an ordinary man, I would not have felt bad! After 30 years of association with me, you still call me a saint?
Truth and honesty demanded that you should have told him that you don't know who Meher Baba is, but still you have accepted him as your guru. Were this question put to Dr. Deshmukh, he would have immediately replied that Baba is the Avatar! I don't mean that you should have declared that. You could have safely said that I was your Master.
What was the idea in telling him I was a saint? I am not a saint! At the moment there are a number of saints in Dehra Dun, Hardwar and Rishikesh. Here on Rajpur Road [the locality of Baba's residence] are four saints — Anandamayi Ma, Mangat Ram, Ishwar Singh and Miran Bhai. Only yesterday, I explained to the mandali about saints, in the words of Kabir:
The advantage one derives by pilgrimage is one.