Jesting, Ghani told him, "Baba, no doubt, you are God; but what have we earned from being with you all these years? You have trapped us in such a way that we are neither here nor there!" He went on teasing Baba to elicit an interesting discourse; but this time Baba gave him such an explanation that Ghani felt giddy!
Glancing around, Baba asked Kaka, "Why are you sitting behind? Come in front and answer this egg-headed idiot!"
"I do not wish to enter into any disputes," Kaka said.
"Are you afraid of Ghani?" Baba asked.
"I'm not afraid of even his father!" Kaka responded hotly.
"Then come and reply to him," Baba ordered.
Kaka came forward, and there ensued such an argument between the two that it eventually turned into a verbal free-for-all.
Kaka began, "You are a eunuch to beg from Baba! Only eunuchs beg!" Kaka proceeded to quote Kabir. "Kabir has rightly said: What is given voluntarily is like milk; what is gotten by begging is like water; what is forcibly taken is like blood."
"Who are you to teach me the couplets of Kabir?" Ghani retorted. "I am a hundred times more conversant with them than an unlettered man like yourself. I have liquefied and drunk them!"
"Then why do you talk like a eunuch?" Kaka demanded.
"It is you who speak as one, my friend. What is there in you — you are a fool and cannot understand me."
Kaka proceeded to state a few choice opinions about Ghani's genealogical tree, comparing his ancestry to certain four-legged creatures low down the evolutionary ladder, and Baba sat back enjoying it immensely. At last, Kaka's words and tenacity "overpowered" Ghani, who kept quiet.
Baba stated, "Kaka has worked wonders today! Ghani is speechless — a miracle!"
Such arguments between the mandali were not a rare phenomenon. Baba would work through such heated situations to make the mandali unbiased, fearless, faithful and honest; and to make them keep only one thought in mind: to keep Baba's pleasure in every situation.
Baba was particular to see that no one was more partial to one than to another. Where close friendships would begin to develop between mandali members, Baba would, by some means or another, create differences and fights between them. The mandali were all friends, but at the same time, they were open-hearted, so that no one's faults remained hidden. If at all someone's weaknesses were kept inside, Baba would resort to various means to bring them out in the open by creating fights and cleaning up the "dirt."