One such interview took place at the Links on Sunday, 11 February 1940. The reporter began by asking:
"Do you accept the principle now usually accepted in the West that science and religion deal with different spheres?"
"It depends upon how it is understood," Baba stated. "If science deals only with material advancement, then such science would be said to have nothing of spirituality. But when the same science is expressed to make the meaning of life clear, then it is also a branch of spirituality — just as art, if expressed rightly, is spiritual, if expressed wrongly, material."
"You mean scientific truths and principles are valid so far as they go, and are to be fitted in with spiritual doctrine?"
"They can be fitted in. What is the gross world, after all, but the medium of realizing spirituality? For example, the body is purely material, physical and gross, but it is the medium for the soul to know itself, provided it is dealt with and handled rightly; otherwise, it becomes a hindrance to spiritual progress. Similarly, scientific principles and truths, if used rightly, help in the spiritual progress of the universe, but if improper use is made of them, they are bound to be a source of hindrance in the spiritual path."
"But what about astrology? Astrology is not part of science," the reporter asked.
"Everything has something to do with spirituality. It depends on how it is worked out, and that again results in either advancing or retarding spiritual progress.
"Science is a mass [general] thing, while astrology is individual, so science itself cannot be proved to be wrong. If a truth is established scientifically, you do not think of doubting it. It does not occur to you to doubt it. If you are told that the Earth is round and if it is proved to you, you never think that it is flat. But if an astrologer tells you that you will get a million rupees after some time, you will think of it a million times.
"Spirituality has no room for doubts. For example, if someone were to ask me, 'Are you sure you are one with God?' I would ask him, 'Are you sure you are a man and not a dog?' He would say that he is a man because he cannot think of himself as anything but a man. In the same way, I am equally sure that I am one with God.
