On 10 April 1939, the men collected fifteen beggars in Jabalpur and brought them to Baba's bungalow. There Baba fed, bathed, shaved and clothed each of these destitutes in new kafnis, from 3:00 to 5:00 P.M.
Pendu and Chanji left Jabalpur on the 11th; Pendu was sent to Bombay and Meherabad, and Chanji to Itarsi. Chanji returned the next day. Baidul was on the same train from Meherabad. He had been ordered to proceed to Persia to bring his family to India to live in the ashram. Mehera's mother Daulatmai had been staying in Persia for a year by Baba's order and originally Baidul's family was to have returned with her at the beginning of March. But Baidul's eldest daughter had fallen very ill and died on 18 March 1939. His daughter was only eighteen years old, and Baidul had been feeling very depressed about her loss. He would occasionally sit alone silently weeping. Even though such tenacious men as Baidul had surrendered to the Master, they were not spared suffering such human sorrow.
Baba met Baidul on 12 April and consoled him:
Those who die thinking of me come to me. They are liberated from the chain of birth and death and see me perpetually. It is because you cannot see that you feel the separation. If you feel sorry, feel not for the dead, for they have come to me, but for the living who are in precarious conditions.
Bring the family back within three months. You have lots of work to do for me in the future. So leave your wife and children in my care and pay attention only to the work I entrust to you.
On Thursday, 13 April 1939, a rare interview with the Master was granted to a journalist. The subject of perfection was discussed at length. Baba explained:
Just as everything in the domain of duality is based on the proportion of degrees, so also is perfection based on degrees when concerned with duality. Good and bad, virtue and vice, strength and weakness are all based on degrees when considered in relation to duality. Bad and good, vice and virtue, weakness and strength are all aspects of duality; but, in Truth [Reality], all are a degree of oneness in duality. Evil is not evil, but the lowest degree of good. Similarly, weakness is not weakness, but the lowest degree of strength.