Under Adolf Hitler the Nazis were coming to power and war in Europe appeared inevitable. Baba asked Seiber about present conditions in Germany, which he related. Seiber then asked Baba why conditions in his country were so terrible.
Baba smiled and explained:
Chaos and destruction are essential for reconstruction. It is the spiritual law — create and destroy. Create chaos, confusion and misery, and then destroy it so that it may all be rebuilt anew. How can an old house be rebuilt unless it is demolished?
Your coming to me today is no coincidence, but a deliberate plan. Mussolini has specially gone to Germany to meet Hitler and very important talks between them are being held at a meeting at this very moment! Your being here and my asking you to talk of Germany has a significant purpose. It was I who purposely brought you here today for this reason.
Hitler and Mussolini can never find a solution to the chaotic conditions all around them. They add to the misery. Only a Christ can — and the time for that is very near.
Perhaps you could be my sole working agent in Germany if you stick to my instructions and do as I say.
But Seiber was too intellectual and continued pestering Baba with questions concerning how he worked, which Baba was disinclined to answer. For example, after staying in Cannes for a few weeks, on 7 October, Seiber questioned Baba repeatedly about dreams he was having. Baba became fed up and told him emphatically:
You have been thinking and worrying about things, and asking me about your dreams, when I told you to leave it all to me and did not explain for certain reasons. But now that you are impatient and worrying so much, I have to tell you clearly that I know all! I was working it all out in my own ways. I do not work "superficially," on the surface. I work deep down, from the very bottom of things, and touch the root to eradicate things not wanted and implant things desired.
The cause of all your worries and dreams at night is your past sanskaras, not only of the life before this one but from several hundred lives! They are all reacting with full force. I want them all to come out and rise to the surface, and be spent naturally, as much as possible.