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Chapter 11: Portofino

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Nilu was in medical school in Bombay and would occasionally visit Baba in Nasik. When Nilu informed Ambedkar about Meher Baba, Ambedkar agreed to see Baba immediately. So Baba returned to Bombay to meet with him. The following conversation took place at seven o'clock on the evening of 13 September:
"I am very pleased to see you," Baba began. "I have wanted to meet you for a long time."
"I was also eager to see you, but I had not been able to manage it," replied Ambedkar.
Baba then spelled out to him, "Let me clearly explain to you in detail why I wanted to see you and what I want you to do. First of all, let it be quite clear that I have nothing to do with politics. My concern in this matter is purely from the spiritual point of view, and out of my regard and feeling for the depressed classes. Apart from any politics, I have already done much for them during my time in Meherabad, where I made the high-class Brahmins live and eat in my ashram with Untouchables. Not only that, I made my Brahmin disciples bathe the Untouchable boys. I bathed them myself. I have the cause of the depressed classes at heart, and I quite understand and appreciate your efforts on their behalf.
"Now, the situation is such that the settlement of self-rule for India rests on the delicate question of joint or separate electorates for the depressed classes. Now is the time and occasion for those who fight for the cause of these Untouchables to strike while the iron is hot, getting as much as possible for them. So now, when the time of this golden opportunity for the poor Untouchables has come, I would advise you, for reasons I am about to explain, to accept the joint electorate with a reservation of seats and other rights and details to be settled with Gandhi and other leaders.
"I had a long meeting with Gandhi the day before his arrest. He explained things and asked me to tell you and the other leaders of the depressed classes to accept a joint electorate. He promised me, if you and the other leaders accept, that he would meet with you and be most sympathetic to the rights of the Untouchables, using his influence on all political leaders to ensure justice in the new arrangement.
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