When they returned from Cademario, Baba called them into his room. Records were played, both Indian and Western, including the Negro spiritual, I Want To Be Ready (most likely sung by Paul Robeson). Adi Sr. and Beheram played the harmonium and sitar for a while. Baba appeared to be in a dazed condition and stated:
I do not sleep, but I rest on a certain "point." This point is between the sixth and seventh planes, and at times it is very difficult to "come down" from that eternal state. While resting on this point, there should not be the slightest noise, as it would be harmful. In Meherabad once, I had to suffer badly due to some disturbance. My eyes were full of tears and I was rolling on the ground, overcome by so much suffering.
From the nirvikalp samadhi ["I-Am-God"] state, I have to undergo great anguish to come down to normal human consciousness. To attain sahaj samadhi [God-consciousness plus creation-consciousness] in itself is infinite anguish. There is no desire to come down at all, but it is necessary to come down for Universal duty.
Through my Universal mind, I undergo infinite suffering, and due to the infinite bliss, I am at infinite rest. The meaning of undergoing suffering is to work for the salvation of mankind and to come down for that duty [from nirvikalp samadhi to normal consciousness]. My descent is for this purpose!
This "play" is going on from eternity, but the effect of my infinite suffering is minimized by the infinite bliss in the background; though, in spite of this infinite bliss, I have to suffer infinitely. I am above and beyond both.
Continuing, Baba narrated details of the experience he had when he was five years old and saw before him circles within circles of shining light and various brilliant colors. He was dazed and fainted at the time. He concluded:
I have the actual experience of it all today, and feel the universe and creation emanating and projecting out of me. I feel all today that which I had a mere sight of then. Creation involves only to re-evolve again. It is a never-ending game!
I have explained it all in detail in my book. Even scientists will be [astonished] to learn the secrets I have explained there. For these will not be vague talks but facts that are substantiated and supported by scientific arguments.