The more the suffering, the greater the benefit."
"True. I think so too," Gandhi replied, "because the people will then come to know about the Truth. They will realize that they themselves are to blame for internal bickerings, and then there will be no one left to fight with."
"Absolutely true, and then unity will last. Still, on your part, do your utmost to bring about unity among the Hindus and the Muslims. If it is brought about, good; otherwise, nothing will happen and the blame will unnecessarily be laid at your doorstep," Baba stated.
Gandhi replied, "I am doing that and will keep on striving in that direction. I will do my utmost. We have to put in our best effort. We are not in authority, not even in name; everything is left to God's will."
Baba nodded, but then said, "While the world goes mad with excitement over one question or the other — like this self-government for India which you all consider to be of vital importance, to me it is all a tamasha, a passing show, a play. I enjoy it because I have experienced 'death.' So there is nothing to worry about. Even such vital questions that threaten the existence of one community or nation are of practically little concern or importance, except where it affects the spiritual development of one or the other.
"Spiritual life is the real life. Everywhere there is bliss and nothing but bliss. Every moment, every hour, every day, I continually experience it. This bliss is in everyone and I am pondering how to make the world [mankind] aspire to and taste this bliss. But there is a 'lock' put on it and only I have the 'key.' That is why I only smile at all these 'excitements' in the world."
"Then, won't you favor me with just one of those keys?" Gandhi asked.
"I will give it."
"Is that a promise?"
"Actually it is yours and you will know it one day. The sooner you strive after it exclusive of all else, the sooner you will get it. I will help you in your effort and will give it to you when you come to stay with me after retiring from politics as I previously prescribed.
"But the funny part is that though the bliss is within everybody, no one is able to find it. They search outside! I am thinking how to make people see it within and how to make them enjoy it. For that, when I speak, I will say something 'new'!"